Doctor Who Club of Australia

ark76 · Joined: 14 Aug 2005 Posts: 3 Location: Canberra

I'm surpised at the number of positive comments on this episode. I thought it was a fitting end to the season - a real turkey!!

An overblown plot, no sense of realism. I was laughing throughout most of the story - for all the wrong reasons.

With the last episode gone, I've been trying to think what I could best liken this season to, and I've come up with two points of comparison:
- The first Peter Davidson season - for the incredibly uneven quality of the stories; and
- The last Colin Baker season - in the sense that its a real missed opportunity.

I'm guessing I'm in the minority here, but for mine, Russell T Davies has proved himself completely the wrong person to revive Dr Who...

Ickabod · Joined: 26 Jun 2005 Posts: 593 Location: far far away

Goddddd.......you remind of a jerk on the FSF forum..........he too is a Doom person who's not said a nice word about anything regarding dr.who.......this negative attitude of some people really pisses me off......

SharazJek · Joined: 12 Aug 2005 Posts: 932 Location: Hobart, Tasmania

Davros · Joined: 29 Jun 2005 Posts: 148 Location: Skaro

Guest · Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:19 am Post subject:

Guys, dont get me wrong. I loved the stories and the plot of this one. but the ending was disappointing and had holes in it. If the vortex stuff caused the Doctor to regenerate, "every cell is my body is dying' - why didnt it kill Rose??????? And the way the Daleks were dealt with was a bit of a let down. Sorry.

BUT ........ bring on the next season! Wink

Dougy · Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 10:09 am Post subject:

Well, it true you can't please everybody, but I can't belive people didn't like this episode. I thought it was brilliant, FANSTASTIC! This is why I watch TV, to be completely blown away like I was Saturday night. Honestly I can't fault this ep, all the things people mentioned that they didn't like, I honestly cannot agree with. In my mind this was perfect, easily the best that the new series has provided.

The Bad Wolf thing was a connection to the company name, which actually IS Bad Wolf. Rose planted it all over time and space so when she got the that point she's recognise it.

As for the Vortex killing the Doctor and not Rose, I understood it that, seeign as the TARDIS can "look into our souls" that it was trying its best to proterct Rose, but when the Doctor took it into himself, it was too powerful and, well, stuffed him up. Also, they needed a way to regenerate the Doc, and that was as good a reason as any.

As for the Doctor/ Jack kiss, I thought it was fine. It was appropriate in the setting and what not.

I LOVED the Daleks!

Yes, IMHO, this is the single BEST Who ep I've ever seen, of both theold and the new series. I know that will probably upset some of the more "traditional" fans, but hay, thats just me.

On a slightly off topic note, has the ABC not yet got the rights to play the second season? God, I hope they play it!

ADAMK · Joined: 29 Jun 2005 Posts: 220 Location: Canberra

Wester · Joined: 04 Aug 2005 Posts: 610 Location: Brisbane

Obviously people will have to agree to disagree about the rating of the last episode. Overall, I think there needs to be a bit more tolerance of people who disagree. Remember, not everyone sees something in the same light.

The last episode was 7/10 for me.

Linx · Joined: 27 Jun 2005 Posts: 59 Location: Perth

Was most happy with this one (and retract my comments from last week on Bad Wolf too - now it all hangs together very nicely).
Really enjoyed it on the edge of my seat stuff.
Can we fast forward reality to the Xmas special?

Tom N. · Joined: 07 Jul 2005 Posts: 144 Location: Sydney, NSW

Linx · Joined: 27 Jun 2005 Posts: 59 Location: Perth

I was really surprised when I saw the much discussed kiss scene.
How could something so small generate such a fuss?
I can only conclude that some people really need to get a life.

Guest · Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 4:18 pm Post subject:

Well, obviously there has been alot more people like the show than no like it, becasue, as was said, the ratings have flown throught the roof (although I think Desperate Housewives is the No.1 show in Australia - said alot about our fellow countrymen dosen't it Crying or Very sad

) and we have 2 more seasons!

Obviously, the creators have done something right!

Ickabod · Joined: 26 Jun 2005 Posts: 593 Location: far far away

l'm sorry for seeming like l got on my high horse and l do apologuise...... considering the fact that my grandmother tuned in and never stopped raving about it and she's 90 years old..........and my dad who's 80.........well something was rite about it and all these young primary children who.....because of the new show are now watchng the old ones...... Laughing

.....after years of people mocking me for watching it.........the tables have turned and my self-esteen.confidence goes plummeting and my hackles are up.......so sorry for taking it personal Embarassed

muzza · Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:04 pm Post subject:

My DVD recorder stopped at the bit where rose mum hands Mickey the keys to the truck Crying or Very sad

So I really got no idea how this episode ended.
Oh well the dvd will be out soon Rolling Eyes

ark76 · Joined: 14 Aug 2005 Posts: 3 Location: Canberra

And I apologise for being so negative in my earlier post. But wouldn't it be boring around here if people agreed on everything!!

The season definitely had some high points - I loved 'Dalek' and 'The Empty Child'. And I certainly don't want a return to the last few JNT seasons - where no one bothered to watch the show. But I think the show could keep the fans and aim a bit higher...

Anyway enough whinging about season 1 and the last episode... There's an xmas special and a new Doctor to look forward to!

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SharazJek · Joined: 12 Aug 2005 Posts: 932 Location: Hobart, Tasmania

Ickabod · Joined: 26 Jun 2005 Posts: 593 Location: far far away

thank you Ark76.............and l promise not to become that which l depise which is being judgemental.............l try hard to be an optimist.....so feel free to go crook if l start to act like a total tosser once again....... Embarassed

Wester · Joined: 04 Aug 2005 Posts: 610 Location: Brisbane

[quote=I think the vortex energy was about to kill Rose, but the Doctor transferred it into himself (via the kiss) so it killed him instead. He managed to get all the energy back into the Heart of the TARDIS but not before the damage had been done, and so he regenerated quote]

I am not convinced, but thanks for trying. Maybe I need to read the book.

ADAMK · Joined: 29 Jun 2005 Posts: 220 Location: Canberra

The series final seems to have seen Doctor Who perform better in the ratings (even if up against the Ashes, the rugby and the AFL in some States). It made 4 appearances in the 5 capitals Top 50!

Brisbane Total Individuals: No. 39 (216,000)
Perth Total Individuals: No. 34 (136,000)
Sydney People Aged 25-54: No. 44 (144,000)
Perth People Aged 25-54: No. 40 (58,000).

(Note: The Brisbane figure is great when you consider that "Rose" only got 183,000 in Brisbane!!! "Rose" got 164,000 in Perth)

For more detail see: http://www.pbl.com.au/media/pdf/2005/Australian%20Television%20Ratings%20-%20Week%2033.pdf

The ABC should be happy with those figures! Its only other dramas mentioned in the Top 50 were "Silent Witness" and "The Bill".

Theta Sigma · Joined: 26 Jun 2005 Posts: 4566

Last week I wrote a response to Scott Jenkins' preview of The Parting of the Ways in which he says that Doctor Who was something to be loved or loathe and that we should make up our minds whether to say goodbye for now or good riddance in the Seven Days guide. First of all I was told that my letter will be in the the next Seven Days (albeit edited since it was long) then to my surprise I got a response from Mr Jenkins himself.

"Thank you for your email regarding my recent preview of the final episode of the current series of Dr Who.

A couple of points ...

In the limited amount of space I am given for the fourth review each week, it is difficult to go into excessive detail about a particular show, but I can assure you I did watch the episode in question and have, in fact, seen most of this series. [Theta Sigma: I said that there was no indication based on the preview that he had seen Parting of the Ways]

As a reviewer, I am paid to offer my opinions on programs. My intention is never to hide behind "neutrality". My dislike of the new Dr Who has nothing to do with the old Dr Who series. Readers are aware of my opinons on many shows.

I very much loved the original series (until Tom Baker left anyway) and was looking forward to the new one. The fact is - and this is only a personal opinion - I did not like the new series, but not because it didn't compare well to the original. I didn't like it for many other reasons. It would not be fair on readers for me to say "this sucks", because everyone is entitled to their opinions. Was your suggestion that I be barred from reviewing Dr Who in future made because you are a fan of the show and that you
disagreed with my opinion? That's what reviews basically are: differing opinions.
I have no fears, as you suggest, about becoming a convert to Dr Who. It's just that it isn't going to happen. Perhaps when the next series - minus Mr Eccleston - comes to fruition.

As for viewers either loving or loathing the show: yes, they are divided.
The mail we get here is roughly 50-50, and the fans I know are divided
in the same manner. You can't please all of the people all of the time.

Re: Battlestar Galactica. I loved both versions and in fact thought the latest one was far superior to the original, and, indeed, to most other sci-fi shows ever made. [Theta Sigma: This was the differing perception I got of people's attitude to the reemergence of Docor Who and Battlestar Galactica.]

You're obviously a sci-fi fan (as am I), and I know they can be rather vocal in their opinions. If there's one thing Dr Who - and Star Trek, and Space 1999 and dozens of other shows - has taught me, it's that there is room for thousands of differing opinions.

I have been told that your email will appear in this week's Seven Days.
Thank you for taking the time to write in, we appreciate there are
people out there who take the time to read what we have to say.

All the best.

Scott Jenkins,
Daily Telegraph."